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Nicholas Christakis

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

So you listen to those guys and you're like, well, they're also right.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

Well, they can't both be right.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

And you know, that's also true.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

So I have sort of stopped trying to form in my own, because I'm not so expert in this area,

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

But I am expert in another area, which is related to this, which is this issue of how AI is going to change human behavior.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

And here, just to preface one set of ideas, the kind of toy model that I like to throw out there to sort of help people fix ideas is imagine the manufacturer of an Alexa digital assistant.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

The manufacturer of a digital assistant is very concerned with the human-machine interaction.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

You would never buy an Alexa if every time you had to speak to it, you had to say, excuse me, Alexa, I'm very sorry to interrupt you.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

If you don't mind, would you please tell me the weather tomorrow?

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

That would be an absurd level of politeness.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

You would never buy a machine like that.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

You expect to be able to say, Alexa, weather, and it obediently responds.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

And that's fine until you bring the machine into your home and your children, in speaking to that machine, learn to be rude.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

And then they go to the playground and they are rude to other children.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

So what we've been studying in my lab is human-human interactions in the presence of machines.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

And specifically, what we've been focusing on is little perturbations in the AI systems, in the machine systems, that modify how the humans interact with each other.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

And in fact, what we're working on is not so much super smart AI to replace human cognition, but dumb AI to supplement human interaction.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

And because the humans are smart, you can think of the AI as a kind of catalyst, like platinum in an organic chemistry reaction, that just facilitates the interaction of humans and helps optimize them.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

And we've done a broad set of experiments that have shown this is possible, that you can improve human collective and individual performance through the thoughtful injection of AI agents into social systems.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#466 โ€” What Is Technology Doing to Us?

We haven't looked at that specifically.