Nicholas

So anyway, I did that, and we did $6 million our first year, $11 million the second year.

and then we got an offer for 50 million, and John Sculley.

One five or five-oh?

Five-oh, five-oh, yeah, 50, five-zero.

I was a minority shareholder, and John said, ah, we can do much better, and I'm thinking, I'm out of here.

So I sold my shares, I did my first million, I was in my early 30s, and I doubled down on a second company,

doing online universal shopping cart.

And Goddard was asking, who has done SaaS?

I wonder if that would be called SaaS today.

It was an online, I guess it was SaaS.

Even once into it, I have an offer for $60 million.

One six or six zero.

No, six zero, I'm sorry.

I get corrections for the French accent.

Six zero, and I have 72% of the company.

So I'm about to clear $42 million, and the deal collapsed, and the dot bomb happened, and I had to shut down the company.

I did the deal with Microsoft, but I laid off 65 people.

And you sold all your pants.

And I thought, someday I'll get some pants.

So that's the story, and then I did a whole bunch of other things.