Nicholas

And I kept telling her, when you have this kind of talent, you don't work for people.

You make money to yourself.

And I kept trying to convince her.

And finally, in late 2015, she agreed and we started a company, and that's Chili Piper.

It's a good question.

No, she has slightly less than me.

I thought it was fair that... So I'm going to tell the full story of the company, because it didn't quite happen that way, since we have time.

I tried to convince her in 2013 to do a company and she didn't want to.

So I did it on my own and I started a company to go after a problem that I had.

I was helping a friend running a sales team and my reps refused to update Salesforce.

And I said, look, you're not going to get your commission if you don't update Salesforce.

I said, look, we have other things to do.

Yeah, right, exactly, exactly.

So I thought, you know, I'm going to do a smart system that goes into the sales reps' email contact calendar, find the information, put it in Salesforce, and everybody's happy, right?

They don't have to do anything, and my system does it.

So I start that company.

I start building the system.

Then I find that there's a company in Israel called Implicit that's doing the same thing.

And I'm thinking, well, that happens, right?

Good ideas happen at the same time.