Nick Baumgardner

Those are your guys that are going to have between 20 and 30 starts in 2026.

Right.

So if let's say all five of those guys got 20, 25 starts, you say, OK, we're we're cooking here.

And that leaves you a little bit margin for error.

If a guy goes on the IL, we know it's a grind to get through 162.

Then the next tier is that 10 to 15 start range where you have a guy like Justin Steele coming back off elbow surgery.

You're not going to rush him back, but that gives him some time to really build things up going into second half.

Colin Ray, your guy who's always known to make some spot starts here and there.

Then Ben Brown, Javier Assad.

Then the 5 to 10 start range, guy like a Jordan Wicks, maybe Jackson Wiggins comes up, gives you a couple starts, somebody goes down.

And that's how you get yourself through 162.

But that leaves you room for error.

That leaves you room for if a guy goes down.

It's really hard to get through a year and a guy doesn't go down with injury, elbows, shoulders, et cetera.

And so I think with what they've been able to do,

They've put themselves in a really solid position to have some overlap.

Marshall Harris and Russell Dorsey talking you through the three biggest storylines for the Cubs.

Number one, what version of PCA will we get in 2026?

We'll be closer to the first half.

We'll be closer to the second half.