Nick Bostrom

I mean, I think humans are conscious and rocks are not conscious, but exactly where in the hierarchy that we would be caught up, I'm not sure.

I'm not sure either that there is a sharp line there.

It might more be that there is kind of diminishing or...

more and more strange senses in which lower order organisms have some kind of consciousness and it kind of fades out rather than there being a sharp threshold is what I guess.

I'm just putting it out there.

Yeah, well, I mean, I guess, first of all, you could have a lot of artificial intelligence

even simple systems that would be imperfect in various ways.

You could have some faulty hard drives that randomly erase various things.

You could also have kind of compressed representations.

That's what you have to do if you're trying to do anything with AI.

There's a lot of data coming in and you have to extract some important features based on that and throw the rest away.

Well, so I don't think so.

No, I was just exploring your account of consciousness, that somehow what's necessary or sufficient for consciousness is that there is some kind of faulty or limited information processing.

Right.

Well...

I'm saying that computers are also imperfect in certain ways.

And I'm not sure that the closer you get to perfection, that you would lose consciousness.

I'm thinking anything, it might go the other way around, that you might become more conscious if you want more.

But yeah, you might have to, if you wanted to sort of elaborate on that, you might want to try to say like, which types of imperfection are the ones that are supposedly making a system conscious?

And maybe exploring that line of thought further, maybe you would get to something that would be some kind of plausible account of consciousness.