Nick Bryant

Yeah.

They have no idea that they're drinking the Kool-Aid.

Yeah.

It kind of amazes me.

And I think eventually Watergate's going to be broken open.

There's too many good books about it.

I mean, my book is a good overview of what actually happened.

And then there's some really good books about it.

I mean, really amazing investigative journalism has been done with Watergate.

So I think that John Dean and Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein are really, it's only a matter of time until they're outed as liars.

History is not going to look very favorably on them.

And the thing about Nixon, and I'm not a Nixon apologist, he did some bad things.

I mean, he...

fomented the coup, the Pinochet coup in Chile, which Pinochet was a bad guy.

He facilitated Suharto in Indonesia.

And then we basically gave tacit approval of Pol Pot because Pol Pot was aligned with the Chinese and we wanted to establish diplomatic relations with Chinese.

So Nixon did some really bad things, but he also did some really good things too.

In addition to trying to become a peacemaker with the Soviet Union and limit nuclear arms, he tried to get universal health care passed.

And he tried to get for families with children a minimum amount of money that they would get, which was like $4,500 from the government.

If they were getting like $25,000, or if they were getting like $3,000, they'd be supplemented, which would be $40,000 now.