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Nick Chirls

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

You don't have to make a single dollar and you take 20% out of the capital raised and you put it in the pockets of mostly employees that work there. The other thing I would actually say is I've never understood why venture doesn't have a hurdle that exists in most other private asset classes. You can do reasonably well and not even do as well as the NASDAQ and the S&P and you're still making money.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

You don't have to make a single dollar and you take 20% out of the capital raised and you put it in the pockets of mostly employees that work there. The other thing I would actually say is I've never understood why venture doesn't have a hurdle that exists in most other private asset classes. You can do reasonably well and not even do as well as the NASDAQ and the S&P and you're still making money.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

What is a better solution than Nick? A budget system? That's a really good question. I think a lot about how many VCs would be doing this if they had to actually pay back the management fees if they didn't make any money. Like how many VCs would be confident enough?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

What is a better solution than Nick? A budget system? That's a really good question. I think a lot about how many VCs would be doing this if they had to actually pay back the management fees if they didn't make any money. Like how many VCs would be confident enough?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

What is a better solution than Nick? A budget system? That's a really good question. I think a lot about how many VCs would be doing this if they had to actually pay back the management fees if they didn't make any money. Like how many VCs would be confident enough?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

Yeah, but the job is to make money. The job is to perform, right? So, like, if you're in a non-financialized job.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

Yeah, but the job is to make money. The job is to perform, right? So, like, if you're in a non-financialized job.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

Yeah, but the job is to make money. The job is to perform, right? So, like, if you're in a non-financialized job.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

If you have a long track record of producing returns for your investors, I think you have arguments to charge a certain rate. Like, I mean, you can take Renaissance. That's probably a very good example. I think famously they had, they charged like 70% carry and produced by the way, like net to LP is like 60% or whatever, some insane rate of return.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

If you have a long track record of producing returns for your investors, I think you have arguments to charge a certain rate. Like, I mean, you can take Renaissance. That's probably a very good example. I think famously they had, they charged like 70% carry and produced by the way, like net to LP is like 60% or whatever, some insane rate of return.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

If you have a long track record of producing returns for your investors, I think you have arguments to charge a certain rate. Like, I mean, you can take Renaissance. That's probably a very good example. I think famously they had, they charged like 70% carry and produced by the way, like net to LP is like 60% or whatever, some insane rate of return.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

The reality is like most venture firms don't make money.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

The reality is like most venture firms don't make money.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

The reality is like most venture firms don't make money.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

We did. Present that to LPs and don't take a single dollar above it. Is that what you did? I don't pay myself at Asilo. You don't pay yourself? I'm putting every single dollar into hiring people and building the firm.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

We did. Present that to LPs and don't take a single dollar above it. Is that what you did? I don't pay myself at Asilo. You don't pay yourself? I'm putting every single dollar into hiring people and building the firm.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

We did. Present that to LPs and don't take a single dollar above it. Is that what you did? I don't pay myself at Asilo. You don't pay yourself? I'm putting every single dollar into hiring people and building the firm.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

Yeah, I mean, I do live by it.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

Yeah, I mean, I do live by it.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: Why VC is a Ponzi Scheme Today | Why Most VCs are Bankers | Why Big VCs Ruin Startups | Why Incentives in VC are Broken | Why American Dynamism is a Tool for VCs to Raise Money with Nick Chirls, Asylum Ventures

Yeah, I mean, I do live by it.