Nick Farabaugh

How are they going to give him the opportunity with Rodgers here?

to get any opportunity to show what he can do.

Because it'll probably come back the next year, and then you have two of those same kind of guys, and you'll probably draft another quarterback.

And I get your point about drafting quarterbacks until you get it right, because it is the most important.

But how does that figure for this year?

You'd have to give up future.

I don't like third, fourth round picks to get it done.

Do you, Nick?

You'd have to go to next year and the year after and the year after.

Yeah.

They have a chart about what it would take to move certain spots up, and they know what all these general managers do.

So it's a lot.

No, it really is.

I don't think.

Defensively, what do you think they most need to become this historic defense?

Because if you saw Seattle play, I think that's a historic defense, the way they play it.

And Nick, it goes to show you that you can still win.

A lot of these teams that are in the top five in defenses end up going far in the playoffs.

So there is...

that component to it?