Nick Fountain

He had spent years lobbying the Consumer Product Safety Commission to make that finger-detecting technology mandatory for table saws, but he had been facing fierce opposition from the industry.

The other day, I gave him a ring.

How are you?

Good.

Long time.

Yeah.

Alex, you'll probably remember that when we left off with Steve, it seemed like finally, after two decades, that regulation was finally going to become the rule of the land.

Things were on a promising track.

I think I sort of debated how much to say this was a sure thing or not in our writing, you know?

But I am sensing by the way you are setting this up that that is not how things went down.

That's right.

So that happened in May.

And right there, Steve realized that this regulation was not going to go through.

Okay, so his update is he's feeling kind of depressed now and also angry.

He said he's not going to let it get him down too much.

He says he recognizes that this is just one of many anti-regulation steps that the Trump administration is taking.

And he's trying to bring a new product to market, a safer bandsaw, in the hopes that people will just pay for safety.

A market-based solution.

We love it when that works.

Yeah.