Nick Gillespie

Oh, well, thank you, John. It's a real treat. And it's always nice to be called grounded because normally I'm talked about as something less than grounded. So thank you.

Oh, well, thank you, John. It's a real treat. And it's always nice to be called grounded because normally I'm talked about as something less than grounded. So thank you.

Yeah, I think so. And part of it is that I grew up as a journalist, or I started working as a journalist, then I went to grad school for literary studies. And then I had to come back. It was still in my blood. Somehow that big payoff in being an English professor didn't materialize.

Yeah, I think so. And part of it is that I grew up as a journalist, or I started working as a journalist, then I went to grad school for literary studies. And then I had to come back. It was still in my blood. Somehow that big payoff in being an English professor didn't materialize.

Well, I actually did get my start working at teen magazines and music magazines. I worked for a place called Teen Machine at some point. Teen Machine. But even in my teen mag days, I was always interested in starting with some facts. It's not like a card you lay down and then the conversation stops. I've been a reason since 1993. The magazine started in 1968.

Well, I actually did get my start working at teen magazines and music magazines. I worked for a place called Teen Machine at some point. Teen Machine. But even in my teen mag days, I was always interested in starting with some facts. It's not like a card you lay down and then the conversation stops. I've been a reason since 1993. The magazine started in 1968.

I did a cover story about how everybody was talking about, and this was a big Hillary Clinton thing. children were at risk like they had never been before like you know worse than the little rascals those those kids had a good compared to kids growing up in the fucking like late 1990s and all i started with was like a list of you know how much better children are doing right

I did a cover story about how everybody was talking about, and this was a big Hillary Clinton thing. children were at risk like they had never been before like you know worse than the little rascals those those kids had a good compared to kids growing up in the fucking like late 1990s and all i started with was like a list of you know how much better children are doing right

Well, you know, I'm 61 years old. I was born in 1963. The average lead levels in kids growing up in the 60s would have triggered massive medical interventions in the late 90s because, you know, lead, leaded gasoline, lead paint, lead pencils, you know, lead cereal, I'm sure.

Well, you know, I'm 61 years old. I was born in 1963. The average lead levels in kids growing up in the 60s would have triggered massive medical interventions in the late 90s because, you know, lead, leaded gasoline, lead paint, lead pencils, you know, lead cereal, I'm sure.

And they filled you up for the whole day, yeah. No, but so, I mean, this just gets back to the point of like, I think it's always important to, when we start talking about stuff, especially today, because, you know, people are nuts, is like, can we agree on some common facts, right? Yeah.

And they filled you up for the whole day, yeah. No, but so, I mean, this just gets back to the point of like, I think it's always important to, when we start talking about stuff, especially today, because, you know, people are nuts, is like, can we agree on some common facts, right? Yeah.

You have to be because you want to go where the jokes are and you want to be able to think a certain way and then express it.

You have to be because you want to go where the jokes are and you want to be able to think a certain way and then express it.

Yeah. So, and this is where I guess I am grounded because I'm not an anarchist or an anarcho-capitalist, which a lot of people say where, you know, no government is ever necessary or kind of the same thing that anything the government does is by force and theft and is illegitimate. And they also suck at everything they do. Why would we have them do anything?

Yeah. So, and this is where I guess I am grounded because I'm not an anarchist or an anarcho-capitalist, which a lot of people say where, you know, no government is ever necessary or kind of the same thing that anything the government does is by force and theft and is illegitimate. And they also suck at everything they do. Why would we have them do anything?

You know, that's one strain of kind of libertarian thinking. I'm much more like Milton Friedman, you know, a proud New Jerseyan, everything good. Friedman? Where was he from? He's from, I think he was born in Newark and grew up in Robway. You know, Robway's two most famous residents are Milton Friedman and Reuben Hurricane Carter.

You know, that's one strain of kind of libertarian thinking. I'm much more like Milton Friedman, you know, a proud New Jerseyan, everything good. Friedman? Where was he from? He's from, I think he was born in Newark and grew up in Robway. You know, Robway's two most famous residents are Milton Friedman and Reuben Hurricane Carter.

I was going to say, if you don't name somebody from the prison, you're just not working hard enough. Right. But over the course of my career, I've become much more of what I call a directional libertarian, which is that I'm not that interested in like, okay, let's build a perfect philosophical foundation that makes perfect mathematical and philosophical sense.

I was going to say, if you don't name somebody from the prison, you're just not working hard enough. Right. But over the course of my career, I've become much more of what I call a directional libertarian, which is that I'm not that interested in like, okay, let's build a perfect philosophical foundation that makes perfect mathematical and philosophical sense.