Nick Goodall

some of the implications of that of course and have conversations in market about you know how we can ensure that we're having the better you know conversations and that maybe policy can start to change and we can start to see companies change these things um we also included some further breakdowns by generation this time around too which provided some pretty stark differences there also a little bit of a sustainability angle for you know what owners were doing to improve the sustainability of their homes which was interesting at the same time

Again, you put together the report here, front of the media, Calvin.

Do you want to run us through any of those key themes that you were talking about that really pervade throughout that report itself?

And I know we had some, you know, we had the same thing in Australia too.

So maybe any, I don't know, top of the mind comparisons to Australia.

But yeah, how'd that release go?

And any big thoughts on the themes there, mate?

Yeah, absolutely.

I think, as you say, for the sustainability side, it's definitely an awareness and understanding of how and what you can do.

Definitely that split by generation, which I think is a bit more, you know, the younger generations understanding more about what they can do, maybe having confidence to do those little things and do the research to find out what are those things you can do.

And maybe they're a little bit more conscious of protecting the environment for their futures, whereas the older generations maybe, you know,

an acknowledgement and know about it but make it a bit more difficult for them and maybe don't have that same longer term view potentially not saying they're all selfish of course I don't want to go down that route but I think it's a really interesting one and I think importantly as well you know and I think I touched on this importantly we did have the special podcast guest podcast podcast out last week

Which for anyone that's got auto download set, you should have had that go straight to your podcast player.

And if you don't, go and click that little button now so that does auto download when we do the special guest podcast.

But we had Nicole Ferguson, the National Director for Loan Market New Zealand on last week.

And she was great just talking about all these different little things, right, and some of her experience.

She's a strong woman leader, which we like to profile regularly.

as much as we can and particularly around International Women's Day so really good to chat to her and we spoke about the fact that yeah it's actually not just about you know doing the right thing for the environment it's actually starting to pay off financially as well and for anyone watching the video right now you'll see I'm at yet another venue recording the podcast today I'm up in Auckland today and got a meeting this afternoon with the New Zealand Green Building Council so

you know, they're getting really higher profile and doing more and more and getting great partnerships out there to ensure that there's not just the benefit of socially doing the right thing, but also financially, it's actually starting to really pay off when you go green, when you build new property, or for many cases, if you can, you know, do those little improvements or retrofit or whatever, you know, with interest-free loans or low interest loans for doing green changes as well that those are coming through too.

So another great