Nick Goodall

You're definitely showing the country Victorian in you if you want that space out of the backyard, right?

I think that's also very Kiwi, of course.

The shower bath.

I mean, I agree for what it's worth.

I think the worst thing about them is they often come with those stupid curtains.

They're even worse.

I'll have to talk to the team about, like, do we have a flag in there that shows it's a shower bathroom?

I reckon it's probably a common thing in New Zealand.

It's probably something to do with the families, and it's one bathroom, and, you know, as you're growing up with a young family in the, I don't know, 60s, 70s, when all our houses were built, maybe it was just practicality, right?

But, look, I'd never even go there, but it's a great point.

Okay, and then one more, a more personal one.

Trigger me with your thinking about those waterfalls.

Is there a particular waterfall?

Like, if you're that much of a chaser, is there a particular waterfall you can think of as your favourite that you want to go back to again?

I'll turn this into a waterfall podcast.

But no, I like it.

It makes me think about, I remember driving on the west coast of the South Island.

And that's what everyone says, you actually want to be driving there when it's raining, because you get these incredible waterfalls that you drive straight past.

And it's just the power that you kind of sit there in awe.

And the sound of it is just incredible.