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Nick Heiner

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The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

I think, you know, there was in 2023, a lot of debate over whether it was going to be small, specialized models or large, big models.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

And the large modeled side of the debate has been winning for the last three years.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

So I definitely expect to see, like, we're just going to train one model that can both do PowerPoint and a complicated analysis.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

History is proven.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

Yeah, basically.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

Yeah.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

So so one thing we found, as you'll note in the write up, like we had said, a lot of the models behaved as if they were solving an academic problem.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

And this is interesting, but actually not surprising at all, because, you know, again, you are your objective function, right?

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

Like you get what you're trained for.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

And a lot of benchmarks are fairly academic and contrived.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

And this is a natural consequence of the fact that building a benchmark is incredibly expensive.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

And a lot of them are being done from an academic context that don't have huge budgets.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

And so like, you know, if you imagine like some of the questions that we were posing to the models here, they take a finance professional 20, 30, 40 hours to do.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

So in order to build a benchmark, hundreds of questions like that,

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

you need to find enough finance professionals and you need to pay them to spend 20 to 30, 40 hours per task.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

And so that's quite a lot.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

And frankly, until you've made an investment in having a really deep expert network and a lot of technology to produce great data with those people, it's just not feasible.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

And so that's why you see a lot of benchmarks that have been used are like glorified like SATs.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

And so, you know, that's why we see that the models sort of behave in a very academic way.

The Neuron: AI Explained
Inside the Secret Labs Where AI Learns to Work

But when you put these real world constraints on them, like they're sort of that last mile problem.