Nick Jonas

over the course of 250 years in this country um you know as we fought for slavery as we fought for suffrage as we fought for civil rights and voting rights and we know you know these things go back and forth and we take steps forward and we've seen you know the steps backwards that we're going no one's giving up on the vision of what

an America can and should be.

You know, the idea that underlies America that started 250 years ago, these are still some very powerful ideas that have been terribly executed for 250 years and we're still really working on them.

I won't give up on the idea that a state that is the national homeland of the Jewish people can also treat the other people who live there well and can live at peace with its neighbors, including a state for the Palestinian people.

That, I think, is not out of the question.

And the horrors of this last few years is actually a moment for Israelis to take a look and say, well, maybe it actually is time to try a non-Netanyahu path rather than

living by the sword rather than by creating a super Sparta that only knows how to bomb things and kill things, maybe it is time for us to try a different path.

And I believe that this is a really important argument to make to people both in this country and that country.

Absolutely.

Thank you so much to both of you.

And I really appreciate the respectful dialogue.

It's a real model of how to talk through these things.

Thanks, guys.

We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas.

We're the first people to do podcasts.

We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.

Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but you know.

Tired and sick.

Tired and sick.

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