Nick Jonas

I don't see that as a realistic possibility.

Others like, you know, Peter Beinart and others in my world

think that that's the way out, but I still believe that there's going to have to be a border drawn between a state that is a state for the Palestinian people, a state of Palestine, and a state that is the state of Israel that provides a national home for the Jewish people.

So we will be focused, I think, as J Street, a little less on the sanctions and boycotts and divest and punishing

to build the pressure on Israel and more on how can we lay out a pathway to actually resolve this underlying conflict so that both peoples can start to have a future their kids can live for rather than die for.

And that's the tragedy of this conflict.

Well, I do think part of bringing about change, I said this a little bit earlier, is there are going to be an array of different actors working in sync to try to bring about a better future.

And J Street doesn't necessarily have to do the exact same things that other people working in this space do.

And because we have family and friends and a deep tie to the state and the people of Israel,

For J Street types, it's going to be a little bit harder to get on board with allies and engage in all the same tactics with people who don't have that level of connection.

You know, we just are going to come at this differently.

It doesn't we will, for instance, defend in court and in legislators.

in legislatures uh the right of people to boycott right we do not want to see uh laws passed that inhibit people's first amendment right to engage in economic boycotts against israel but we're not going to necessarily support those boycotts so we'll be in a lane next to these folks and we will be applying pressure and we will be a lot of it's going to be from within the jewish community and some of it is sort of moral pressure and the pressure of our leaders of our community um

But it doesn't mean that we all have to do the exact same tactics, and I don't have any disregard for the people who are pursuing other things, and I want to make sure that their First Amendment rights to do those things are protected.

But Jay Street may not do all of those things.

Well, I definitely think Israel should exist as a state with equal rights for all.

I just also think there needs to be a state of Palestine next to it.

Right now, the state of Israel within the Green Line has about 10 million people who are citizens of Israel.

There are 5 million Palestinians who live in the area that have no rights as citizens.

And that's the occupation.