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Nick Lane

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

It doesn't quite have a meaning.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

So this is the kind of dynamic of bacterial evolution, is they retain small genomes with access to large pangenomes, and they're forever borrowing, matching, and so on.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

And they effectively remain competitive by keeping their own genome pretty small.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

And then eukaryotes kind of threw all of that out and got larger genomes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

And then the question is, well, if you try and do that with a large genome, a eukaryotic-sized genome, and then you go on picking up little bits of DNA from the environment, the chances of you replacing the right gene gets lower.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

Right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

So it just becomes less and less efficient the bigger your genome is.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

So by the time you get to eukaryotes, they have a large genome.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

Why do they have a large genome?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

I would say it's because you acquire this endosymbiont and they become the mitochondria.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

Now you have a lot more energy available.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

There's all kinds of reasons why eukaryotes will tolerate a larger genome.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

But the bottom line is you've got the energy to do something with it, which bacteria never really had.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

And so now lateral gene transfer is just not good enough to maintain this larger genome.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

You're going to have to do something more systematic.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

So you pull on an entire genome.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

You line everything up.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

You cross over between them.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

Now it's systematic.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Nick Lane โ€“ Life as we know it is chemically inevitable

It's reciprocal.