Nick Lavery

Nick, it's been a long time coming. Long time, man. Yeah. Welcome, brother. Thanks. Good to be here, man. I appreciate you.

Nick, it's been a long time coming. Long time, man. Yeah. Welcome, brother. Thanks. Good to be here, man. I appreciate you.

Nick, it's been a long time coming. Long time, man. Yeah. Welcome, brother. Thanks. Good to be here, man. I appreciate you.

So it's an honor to sit here with you. Thanks, man. I appreciate that. You'll have me thinking about that.

So it's an honor to sit here with you. Thanks, man. I appreciate that. You'll have me thinking about that.

So it's an honor to sit here with you. Thanks, man. I appreciate that. You'll have me thinking about that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm so glad you asked this question. I don't think I've ever really even shared this openly.

I'm so glad you asked this question. I don't think I've ever really even shared this openly.

I'm so glad you asked this question. I don't think I've ever really even shared this openly.

so eric and i um and to back up a little bit eric was really the genesis of this book project he brought this to me uh actually it was in 2020 and i was in dive school which ironically i'm wearing a combat diver t-shirt right now i was in dive school down in key west just getting my ass kicked it's a six-week course it's absolutely brutal and he calls me out of the blue and i'm hanging on by a thread down there physically and mentally i got a couple weeks left and

so eric and i um and to back up a little bit eric was really the genesis of this book project he brought this to me uh actually it was in 2020 and i was in dive school which ironically i'm wearing a combat diver t-shirt right now i was in dive school down in key west just getting my ass kicked it's a six-week course it's absolutely brutal and he calls me out of the blue and i'm hanging on by a thread down there physically and mentally i got a couple weeks left and

so eric and i um and to back up a little bit eric was really the genesis of this book project he brought this to me uh actually it was in 2020 and i was in dive school which ironically i'm wearing a combat diver t-shirt right now i was in dive school down in key west just getting my ass kicked it's a six-week course it's absolutely brutal and he calls me out of the blue and i'm hanging on by a thread down there physically and mentally i got a couple weeks left and

we go back and forth real quick. And he just says to me, Hey man, I've been thinking about this and I think you need to write a book. And I just hung up on him. I'm like, I am in no position to entertain anything even remotely close to this right now. followed up, eventually I decided to pursue it. It was in 2020, so we're mid COVID, all the gyms are closed, the fight house is closed.

we go back and forth real quick. And he just says to me, Hey man, I've been thinking about this and I think you need to write a book. And I just hung up on him. I'm like, I am in no position to entertain anything even remotely close to this right now. followed up, eventually I decided to pursue it. It was in 2020, so we're mid COVID, all the gyms are closed, the fight house is closed.

we go back and forth real quick. And he just says to me, Hey man, I've been thinking about this and I think you need to write a book. And I just hung up on him. I'm like, I am in no position to entertain anything even remotely close to this right now. followed up, eventually I decided to pursue it. It was in 2020, so we're mid COVID, all the gyms are closed, the fight house is closed.

So I have all this extra time and energy on my hand that I have to reinvest somewhere and decide to write the book. So it was even while I was writing the manuscript that Eric and I were talking about doing an audio book version together. We knew we wanted to do that together at some point. And then once we got to a position to be able to start taking that idea seriously,

So I have all this extra time and energy on my hand that I have to reinvest somewhere and decide to write the book. So it was even while I was writing the manuscript that Eric and I were talking about doing an audio book version together. We knew we wanted to do that together at some point. And then once we got to a position to be able to start taking that idea seriously,