Nick Pell

Yeah.

I don't know how many kids are doing Kratom.

And also it's just weird.

Like what kid is like, let me get some Kratom.

I mean, I'm sure it happens, but I don't think it's this, you know, pressing public concern where kids are like, you know, getting hooked on Kratom.

The next stop on the line is when the FDA starts to crack down on Kratom.

This is the FDA this time, not the DEA.

They issue import alerts, see shipments.

warned that it might be contaminated with salmonella the fda commissioner scott gottlieb calls kratom an opioid which kind of and warns that it has no approved medical use the fda also starts releasing death reports but

As we established, most of these are from the use of multiple drugs.

So it's kind of dishonest twice because, yeah, Kratom is like it's sort of an opioid, but it's also sort of not.

It doesn't depress breathing except in super high doses, for example.

And that is the thing that makes opioids dangerous.

Kratom is only partially an opioid.

It's very transparent, fear-mongering on the part of the FDA.

And I would say that the second dishonesty is that it has no approved medical use, but approved is doing a fair bit of work.

Yeah, I mean, I think that's fair.

Like I when I was like 12 years old, I found out that like marijuana was not this thing that was going to turn you into a junkie and kill you.

So I was like, cool, I can I can just smoke pot all the time and there's nothing wrong with it.

And obviously that's not true either.