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Nick Pell

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2056 total appearances

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The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

That's not as true as people think it is because that keeps infant mortality into it. It's like, if you got to the age of 12, you were probably going to make it to about 60. Oh, okay. Is my understanding of it, this is an off-the-cuff remark, Flood the commons and tell me I'm an idiot.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

That's not as true as people think it is because that keeps infant mortality into it. It's like, if you got to the age of 12, you were probably going to make it to about 60. Oh, okay. Is my understanding of it, this is an off-the-cuff remark, Flood the commons and tell me I'm an idiot.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

Yeah, and they're euphemistically called indentures, and it's... Yeah, they're slaves with a limited term. And yes, there's differences, and the differences are significant. But there's some pretty compelling evidence that the Irish indentures were often treated worse than the African chattel slaves for the same reason you treat your own car better than a rental.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

Yeah, and they're euphemistically called indentures, and it's... Yeah, they're slaves with a limited term. And yes, there's differences, and the differences are significant. But there's some pretty compelling evidence that the Irish indentures were often treated worse than the African chattel slaves for the same reason you treat your own car better than a rental.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

Yeah, and they're euphemistically called indentures, and it's... Yeah, they're slaves with a limited term. And yes, there's differences, and the differences are significant. But there's some pretty compelling evidence that the Irish indentures were often treated worse than the African chattel slaves for the same reason you treat your own car better than a rental.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

If you were an Irish indenture, the guy that... owned your indenture contract, couldn't sell your kids, which I think is important.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

If you were an Irish indenture, the guy that... owned your indenture contract, couldn't sell your kids, which I think is important.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

If you were an Irish indenture, the guy that... owned your indenture contract, couldn't sell your kids, which I think is important.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

But when we're talking about kind of the day-to-day, like, yeah, they could be treated extra bad because what do I care? I only got the guy for seven years. For some reason, people really hate the idea that there were white slaves who were in some ways treated worse than their black counterparts.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

But when we're talking about kind of the day-to-day, like, yeah, they could be treated extra bad because what do I care? I only got the guy for seven years. For some reason, people really hate the idea that there were white slaves who were in some ways treated worse than their black counterparts.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

But when we're talking about kind of the day-to-day, like, yeah, they could be treated extra bad because what do I care? I only got the guy for seven years. For some reason, people really hate the idea that there were white slaves who were in some ways treated worse than their black counterparts.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

Like, I don't really know why that bothers some people, but there are people who are definitely like really invested in proving that Irish indentures weren't slaves. Yeah, I think we can say that they weren't slave slaves. And yes, there's obviously something to be said for not being able to have somebody sell your children, but their lives were terrible.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

Like, I don't really know why that bothers some people, but there are people who are definitely like really invested in proving that Irish indentures weren't slaves. Yeah, I think we can say that they weren't slave slaves. And yes, there's obviously something to be said for not being able to have somebody sell your children, but their lives were terrible.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

Like, I don't really know why that bothers some people, but there are people who are definitely like really invested in proving that Irish indentures weren't slaves. Yeah, I think we can say that they weren't slave slaves. And yes, there's obviously something to be said for not being able to have somebody sell your children, but their lives were terrible.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

No, I completely agree. I just don't understand why people are offended by the idea that, yes, many Irish indentures were treated worse on a kind of day-to-day basis. It's a bit of a third rail, but whatever. People also hate hearing that all slave owners weren't just relentlessly sadistic for the sake of sadism.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

No, I completely agree. I just don't understand why people are offended by the idea that, yes, many Irish indentures were treated worse on a kind of day-to-day basis. It's a bit of a third rail, but whatever. People also hate hearing that all slave owners weren't just relentlessly sadistic for the sake of sadism.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

No, I completely agree. I just don't understand why people are offended by the idea that, yes, many Irish indentures were treated worse on a kind of day-to-day basis. It's a bit of a third rail, but whatever. People also hate hearing that all slave owners weren't just relentlessly sadistic for the sake of sadism.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

So a lot of what we think we know about slavery, antebellum slavery in the United States, comes from one television show, Roots, which is fictional. For anybody who's not aware, Roots is fiction. Alex Haley settled a plagiarism case over it that included admission that he stole sections from a work of fiction.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

So a lot of what we think we know about slavery, antebellum slavery in the United States, comes from one television show, Roots, which is fictional. For anybody who's not aware, Roots is fiction. Alex Haley settled a plagiarism case over it that included admission that he stole sections from a work of fiction.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

So a lot of what we think we know about slavery, antebellum slavery in the United States, comes from one television show, Roots, which is fictional. For anybody who's not aware, Roots is fiction. Alex Haley settled a plagiarism case over it that included admission that he stole sections from a work of fiction.