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Nick Pell

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2056 total appearances

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The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

And he's talking about Germans.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

It's more like if they survived seven years, it was so common for these people to die when they were done. It was also very common for them to be like abducted at sea and forced back into indenture. Yeah, it was nasty. Just everything about it is horrible. Indenture and chattel slavery are horrific and morally repugnant and evil. But there are differences between them.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

It's more like if they survived seven years, it was so common for these people to die when they were done. It was also very common for them to be like abducted at sea and forced back into indenture. Yeah, it was nasty. Just everything about it is horrible. Indenture and chattel slavery are horrific and morally repugnant and evil. But there are differences between them.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

It's more like if they survived seven years, it was so common for these people to die when they were done. It was also very common for them to be like abducted at sea and forced back into indenture. Yeah, it was nasty. Just everything about it is horrible. Indenture and chattel slavery are horrific and morally repugnant and evil. But there are differences between them.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

I also think that when we're talking about like less bad forms of slavery, it's such a weird way to try and quantify the experience of being indentured servant in colonial America.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

I also think that when we're talking about like less bad forms of slavery, it's such a weird way to try and quantify the experience of being indentured servant in colonial America.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

I also think that when we're talking about like less bad forms of slavery, it's such a weird way to try and quantify the experience of being indentured servant in colonial America.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

Yeah, that's not the point I'm making. The point I'm making is that, hey, there's this other group of people who were treated very horribly in a way that's like they were slaved.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

Yeah, that's not the point I'm making. The point I'm making is that, hey, there's this other group of people who were treated very horribly in a way that's like they were slaved.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

Yeah, that's not the point I'm making. The point I'm making is that, hey, there's this other group of people who were treated very horribly in a way that's like they were slaved.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

Ah, see, the scale is it. The scale is the thing that's worth noting. The indenture, that kind of fades away. pretty quickly, whereas slavery persists until there's a gigantic war over it. I'm sure there were slaves who were treated better than indentures. I don't think the individual cases really matter that much because the point, I think,

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

Ah, see, the scale is it. The scale is the thing that's worth noting. The indenture, that kind of fades away. pretty quickly, whereas slavery persists until there's a gigantic war over it. I'm sure there were slaves who were treated better than indentures. I don't think the individual cases really matter that much because the point, I think,

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

Ah, see, the scale is it. The scale is the thing that's worth noting. The indenture, that kind of fades away. pretty quickly, whereas slavery persists until there's a gigantic war over it. I'm sure there were slaves who were treated better than indentures. I don't think the individual cases really matter that much because the point, I think,

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

to put a button on all this is that the point is that the entire economic and political system of the united states particularly the south revolved around the chattel slavery of africans in a way that it did not indenture forced labor of irish you did not have big slaving expeditions into the interior of ireland to harvest slaves There's a lot of reasons for that.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

to put a button on all this is that the point is that the entire economic and political system of the united states particularly the south revolved around the chattel slavery of africans in a way that it did not indenture forced labor of irish you did not have big slaving expeditions into the interior of ireland to harvest slaves There's a lot of reasons for that.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

to put a button on all this is that the point is that the entire economic and political system of the united states particularly the south revolved around the chattel slavery of africans in a way that it did not indenture forced labor of irish you did not have big slaving expeditions into the interior of ireland to harvest slaves There's a lot of reasons for that.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

One of them is you weren't allowed to enslave Christians, generally speaking, even heretics like the Irish Catholics. But Even the idea of everybody has this idea of like slaving expeditions into the African interior. And this is not really the most accurate picture of how slavery worked.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

One of them is you weren't allowed to enslave Christians, generally speaking, even heretics like the Irish Catholics. But Even the idea of everybody has this idea of like slaving expeditions into the African interior. And this is not really the most accurate picture of how slavery worked.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

One of them is you weren't allowed to enslave Christians, generally speaking, even heretics like the Irish Catholics. But Even the idea of everybody has this idea of like slaving expeditions into the African interior. And this is not really the most accurate picture of how slavery worked.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1149: Slavery | Skeptical Sunday

The reality of the transatlantic slave trade was more like you pulled up at a McSlavers along the coast and bought what you wanted. Most of the slaves purchased by Europeans were bought from other Africans. They were not captured during European raiding parties. Most of these cases, tribes would subjugate other neighboring tribes and then would sell to Europeans because it's lucrative.