Nick Pell
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6,131 appearances
17 recordings
1 series
first heard Jan 2025
last heard 13 Sep
Nick Pell’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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There's a link to it in the in the show notes if you want to, if you're into reading scientific papers.
He completely rejects this idea that wolves are in charge because they want a a wolf wrestling top.
Yes, that is exactly right.
The other wolves defer to them because they're older and they provide food and because they're the parents.
They do when they move out of the house.
That's basically it.
A lot of the submission behaviors weren't l like rolling over and displaying weakness.
They're food begging behaviors.
So wolves viewed the parent how your dog views you.
They lick you because they want food, because you have it and they want some.
Well, the book had a very big social footprint.
It got adopted by S Cesar Milan in the world of dog training.
As well as the manosphere types.
And the correction comes almost thirty years later.
By then, there's a lot of cultural weight to undo.
I wouldn't totally discount Caesar Milan and dog training.
Oh right.
It doesn't explain everything, but it's there.
Uh but for our purposes, it kind of enters the discourse through the manosphere wing of the internet.
Yeah.
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