Nick Pell

Sure.

Yes.

So back to Kratom before you and I start getting into all kinds of cocaine war stories on the podcast.

That's right.

Kratom was banned in Thailand.

It's back for medicinal purposes only.

Here in the States, it's banned in some states, but it's mostly legal everywhere.

You might see it labeled as not for human consumption.

But this is a total wink, wink, nudge, nudge thing.

Like there's a lot of if you ever buy like peptides and stuff, they're always like, this is for research labs.

And it's like, yeah, dude, I'm doing an N equals one study on whether or not I'm going to get jacked off of this.

I generally buy three foot water bogs so that I can enjoy my pipe tobacco in its smoothest form.

Yes, that's right.

So supposedly there's red, green and white kratom, but it's unclear to me if this is just a marketing gimmick.

There's no difference in terms of the plants they're harvesting.

They supposedly can change the alkaloid profile of the plant to get different effects.

So they emphasize that.

You know, the speedy qualities versus the dopey ones.

In theory, this might be possible, but as this is a totally unregulated market, there's absolutely no way of verifying whether or not it even works.

And if it does, whether the manufacturer is telling you the truth about the content of their wares.