Nick Pell

awareness of roman history through popular culture even if it's not super accurate at least we have some kind of frames references to share in common the greeks were very similar but the spartans the spartans those are the guys from the movie 300 with the amazing abs right for those of us who get our history exclusively from hollywood and now this podcast

awareness of roman history through popular culture even if it's not super accurate at least we have some kind of frames references to share in common the greeks were very similar but the spartans the spartans those are the guys from the movie 300 with the amazing abs right for those of us who get our history exclusively from hollywood and now this podcast

Yeah, and that movie, surprisingly, is not the most inaccurate piece of comic book slop ever made. Frank Miller, who wrote the original comic book it's based on, was a really big fan of the Spartans. Spartans had slaves who did all their agricultural work for them. They were called helots, and they just treated them like garbage. And they were in almost constant revolt against the Spartans.

Yeah, and that movie, surprisingly, is not the most inaccurate piece of comic book slop ever made. Frank Miller, who wrote the original comic book it's based on, was a really big fan of the Spartans. Spartans had slaves who did all their agricultural work for them. They were called helots, and they just treated them like garbage. And they were in almost constant revolt against the Spartans.

Yeah, and that movie, surprisingly, is not the most inaccurate piece of comic book slop ever made. Frank Miller, who wrote the original comic book it's based on, was a really big fan of the Spartans. Spartans had slaves who did all their agricultural work for them. They were called helots, and they just treated them like garbage. And they were in almost constant revolt against the Spartans.

So the dynamic there is quite different. The main point I want to make, which is why I'm repeating it for a third time, is that slavery is absolutely normal. And by that, I mean very common.

So the dynamic there is quite different. The main point I want to make, which is why I'm repeating it for a third time, is that slavery is absolutely normal. And by that, I mean very common.

So the dynamic there is quite different. The main point I want to make, which is why I'm repeating it for a third time, is that slavery is absolutely normal. And by that, I mean very common.

Look, I think a lot of things are normal. It's not a moral endorsement of them. Like I said before, like I don't think it's possible for a human being to own another human being. It's just it's not possible. You can beat someone to do what you want them to do. Like if you want to go sell yourself to somebody, I reject the idea that's even a thing that you can do.

Look, I think a lot of things are normal. It's not a moral endorsement of them. Like I said before, like I don't think it's possible for a human being to own another human being. It's just it's not possible. You can beat someone to do what you want them to do. Like if you want to go sell yourself to somebody, I reject the idea that's even a thing that you can do.

Look, I think a lot of things are normal. It's not a moral endorsement of them. Like I said before, like I don't think it's possible for a human being to own another human being. It's just it's not possible. You can beat someone to do what you want them to do. Like if you want to go sell yourself to somebody, I reject the idea that's even a thing that you can do.

Because you can't sell your feelings. You can't sell your moods. You can't sell yourself to somebody else. You can't own another person. This is not like a moral condemnation of slavery as such. I just don't think that it's... Here's a 50 cent SAT word. I don't think it's like ontologically possible to own another human being.

Because you can't sell your feelings. You can't sell your moods. You can't sell yourself to somebody else. You can't own another person. This is not like a moral condemnation of slavery as such. I just don't think that it's... Here's a 50 cent SAT word. I don't think it's like ontologically possible to own another human being.

Because you can't sell your feelings. You can't sell your moods. You can't sell yourself to somebody else. You can't own another person. This is not like a moral condemnation of slavery as such. I just don't think that it's... Here's a 50 cent SAT word. I don't think it's like ontologically possible to own another human being.

You can have a state apparatus and such that makes it so that people have to do what you tell them to where they're going to get beat or killed or whatever. But I don't think it's possible to metaphysically own a human being the same way that I own a car or own livestock for that matter. I just, I don't think it's possible. And I find the idea morally repugnant, but that said, uh,

You can have a state apparatus and such that makes it so that people have to do what you tell them to where they're going to get beat or killed or whatever. But I don't think it's possible to metaphysically own a human being the same way that I own a car or own livestock for that matter. I just, I don't think it's possible. And I find the idea morally repugnant, but that said, uh,

You can have a state apparatus and such that makes it so that people have to do what you tell them to where they're going to get beat or killed or whatever. But I don't think it's possible to metaphysically own a human being the same way that I own a car or own livestock for that matter. I just, I don't think it's possible. And I find the idea morally repugnant, but that said, uh,

We are kind of lucky that we live in one of the few times and places in history where most people are not slaves, because that is the reality for most of human history.

We are kind of lucky that we live in one of the few times and places in history where most people are not slaves, because that is the reality for most of human history.

We are kind of lucky that we live in one of the few times and places in history where most people are not slaves, because that is the reality for most of human history.