Nick Sampson

And when you see it in your head?

One of those puffy coats, right?

Why did he go upstairs?

Didn't tell you?

Okay.

What was the feeling you had as you said that?

When you picked up your coat?

To them, it meant that you were a cold-hearted killer and that you enjoyed the process.

A lot of the members of their family believe that they got away with it, that they were involved. And that somehow, I don't know, you protected them, but that they're guilty. What would you say to those people with their suspicions?

Because?

Ruined it. Completely.

It hurts knowing that he couldn't even be man enough after all this happened and apologize.

And what's he chosen to do? Forget all about it? Forget all about you? I think he just wants to forget it ever happened.

People give me s*** about it all the time. You know, I try and make a joke out of it, but it hurts every once in a while.

What will it take to convince them that you're an innocent man? I don't think anything will. You mean you're going to have to live under this cloud for the rest of your life? Probably.

Unless I move. But I don't want to move. I love Murdoch.

Meaning?

How long have you had that job?

I know what happened and no one will believe me.

Two people are dead because of me, you know? And I have a very hard time with that still.

Hell.

We did it. He did it.

I think they think that I'm involved with the murders.

I'm not. Because I don't think he had my DNA for anywhere near that house. Because I've never been in that house. Never, ever, once in my entire life have I ever been inside their house.

I have absolutely nothing to do with this.

Your body's telling me that you were there. All the information that's come in through the law enforcement is showing you were there. Your body... You've got no way of controlling that. Your body is telling me you were there. But I know I wasn't.

We were at the house when he was killed. Your body's telling me otherwise. So we need to get past that, what's going on there. I honest to God was not at this house when they were killed.

You were there when he was shot. Nobody's ever told me that. I was not there. Believe me, you sit in the machine. I have to go with my charts. All the years I've been doing that, the charts have been right on. I wasn't there to swear to God's truth. I was not there. I was nowhere around Murdoch. I want you to understand how the system works. I do understand.

I'm getting framed for something I didn't f***ing do.

And when you see it in your head?

One of those puffy coats, right?

Why did he go upstairs?

Didn't tell you?

Okay.

What was the feeling you had as you said that?

When you picked up your coat?

To them, it meant that you were a cold-hearted killer and that you enjoyed the process.

A lot of the members of their family believe that they got away with it, that they were involved. And that somehow, I don't know, you protected them, but that they're guilty. What would you say to those people with their suspicions?

Because?

Ruined it. Completely.

And what's he chosen to do? Forget all about it? Forget all about you? I think he just wants to forget it ever happened.

What will it take to convince them that you're an innocent man? I don't think anything will. You mean you're going to have to live under this cloud for the rest of your life? Probably.

Meaning?

How long have you had that job?

You shot a gun. We all run out of the house.

It was incredible. I'm finally out.

I was constantly looking over my shoulder, seeing who was behind me, you know.

Come after me, come after my family, you know. Revenge. I didn't like being alone, you know. If there was any place I could go where I was around my close friends or something, I was over there at friends' houses. I was anywhere because I didn't want to be alone. Why didn't you want to be alone? Just wasn't sure, you know, what could happen now.

I was upset. I had a loss of why my own cousin could do this to me. Why would he do it to you? It wasn't true. To make himself look better. Using me as a scapegoat. My name came up when I asked who he might know who smoked marijuana or whatever. And he's like, well, I know Nick used to. And so, you know, he'd tell him information like that and pretty much was implicating me and part of this.

And so then, you know, it just kind of came into a snowball effect with him.

Some points. Some points, it's depression. Some points, it's just wish there was a time machine and go back in time and say, forget this ever happened. That's when you go out into the country and do a little target shooting and get away by yourself. Yeah. Get out and, you know, enjoy hunting and stuff like that.

So that's kind of getting out and just sitting in the woods is kind of just a getaway, you know, and there's nothing out there to bother you. You know, you just... Sit out there and just relax and don't have to worry about anything.

I think they think that I'm involved with the murders.

I'm not. Because I don't think he had my DNA for anywhere near that house. Because I've never been in that house. Never, ever, once in my entire life have I ever been inside their house.

I have absolutely nothing to do with this.