Nick Tart

And my favorite book, I think, is Rework by 37 Signals, David and Jason.

Yeah, but what not a lot of people know is that's actually a rewrite of the original book, Getting Real, which is all based on software development.

So I love that.

Uh, I've, I've kind of followed the journeys of, uh, like Jason Freed, um, Brian Clark, Neil Patel, those, those sorts of people had a lot of influence on me when I was starting to learn all these things.

Um, but yeah, I love talking to people who have been in business for a long time, just as much as the new up and coming queer people.

I did.

I, I've followed quick sprout for a number of years and it was really interesting to hear that he has plans for it.

Right.

Cause it's always been just a blog.

It's been Neil Patel's personal blog.

Um, but yeah, I was, I was excited to see what he has cooking there.

We use pivotal tracker.

So tracker is what it's called.

Pivotal tracker to manage all of our development.

So that's, that's something that I use all day, every day.

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I think the reason that you have so much success here on the top, Nathan, is your ability to ask questions.