Nick Troiano

Whatever the convention comes up with, the bar is quite high.

Right.

I don't fear the voter.

I don't think we should fear it.

I think we need to treat it seriously, be cautious and smart about it and embrace it as a tool the founders gave us to ensure that we can continue to endure as a representative republic for centuries to come.

Why isn't someone trying to be the leader in convening this?

I think that there's this sort of psychological barrier about whether constitutional change is possible.

It's been, what, 30 years since the last amendment passed.

But I think pressure is going to build, especially because of how if power continues to consolidate in the way that it does, if the initiative process deteriorates, then the other levers we have to make change become harder.

And I think people may view this other pathway as becoming increasingly necessary.

Yeah, although I think Colorado is headed in the direction of many other places where the primary system is causing our state to become a lot more partisan.

It's one of the states that we continue to work on for reform.

But I will say, having had the experience of running for office early on, was good in being grounded in how voters actually think about democracy in elections, not just an academic perspective on this.

And I feel grateful to be in a role right now to make the biggest impact I can that can impact how

people who runs and how they govern at scale.

Yeah.

Be wary of the early polls that show voters would like the idea of an independent.

And looks really good at first, doesn't it?

Exactly.

But I think the most important thing for any independent is to achieve escape velocity, which is to say you have to be able to prove that you are viable before voters really start paying attention and ask if you are.