Nick Turley

Yeah, yeah.

Well, first of all, I feel accountable to our entire user base.

In fact, our non-users too, because products like Chachapati can have real externalities on all humans.

But when I think about sort of the way we build...

it's really useful to imagine the extremes.

One extreme being a user who doesn't care about AI at all, who has a busy life and needs to be convinced of the value that we can provide.

Because that forces you to really nail the interface and to expose the capabilities that are hidden in the model in a way that people can actually rock.

And then the other useful extreme is our power user base.

Because power users are the users who teach us

what's possible it's actually impossible for us to do all the product discovery

on our own simply because of how empirical this technology is and how much you actually learn post-launch.

So building for each of those extremes can be valuable.

But our user base is incredibly diverse, and people have so many different use cases.

And this is why I like to look at all kinds of different segmentations, not just frequency, but also what use cases are you coming to us for.

But definitely huge variety in the attachment user base.

I look up to Mac OS, for example, as an example, where it really works for people who don't understand technology at all.

It's entirely magical.

But if you are a power user, you've got terminal.

You've got settings.

You can configure almost anything in Mac OS.