Nick Turley

So we're exchanging guten morgens.

But the OpenClaw is so inspiring because...

um it brought to life in in many ways um a vision that that that you know we've had um um in different forms you know admittedly um around this kind of ai that is fully embodied that you know exists across different uis that can do stuff for you that has state that has an interaction pattern that feels a little bit more like talking to a human you know because you know

OpenCloud allows you to interact in a very, very natural way where you can send many texts back and forth and it's very curt.

So there's a lot of elements of OpenCloud that I think were very clarifying to folks across the industry.

But the best, you know, I'm super excited to just learn from Peter and bring into the company and figure out what we can do together.

So there's a lot more to come.

Sure.

If I were starting a company today, I'm really excited about these companies that are going into companies and getting extremely hands-on and doing effectively professional services with AI because we've saturated all the evals and you need to get proximate to the problems.

So it's those companies that I'm paying attention to.

Yeah.

Or just like, you know, you're doing contracts for customers that have really hard problems.

And you're actually going in and committing to solving the problem.

Interesting.

Yeah, because there's a reason, I think, that we've made so much progress on math and coding, but not on many other domains, because those are domains we are proximate to, we as people who work in labs.

And there's all kinds of other domains that we are not as proximate to.

And if you get proximate, I think you can build something transformative.

And I think this is more important now precisely because the easy problems have been solved.

The obvious problems have been solved by the models.

Credit where credit is due.