Nick Turley

If you look at what's happening in code, we're fully there.

It's mind-bending, but we've got so many engineers who don't open their IDE ever.

And for me, as someone who used to code and then unfortunately got very, very busy, it's brought me back in the game.

So Codex and products like it is clearly a product that has escape velocity where people are absolutely using it for all kinds of agentic work.

And if you just take what people are doing and make it work even better,

you kind of get all the way there.

I won't be surprised if you see this happen for other forms of sort of quantitative knowledge work, just because it happens to have the properties that code has.

It's testable.

You know if it worked or not.

It's very RL friendly.

But the domain specific ones already work.

I think the thing that everyone's working for is general purpose agents that just kind of work for anything.

And that's why I think you need to win a consumer because it's very hard to train people into like, okay, it can work.

Deep Research was a consumer product and it really was our first agentic thing out there.

But I think what consumers want is I can just ask it anything and it'll do what needs to be done without any sort of retraining.

Yeah.

We'll get there in just a matter of time.

all this stuff, there are so many consumer problems.

And those are just the type of things that you would kick off, right?

The minute you have proactivity, there's things you don't even think of as agentic tasks.