Nick Viall

Yeah.

She knows everything.

It was too much.

It was way too much.

You couldn't script that.

No, you couldn't.

Can I ask a dorky question?

Ashley going from one franchise to another, I would think it's got to be jarring.

And like how she's approaching the season is really neat.

It's kind of like refreshing of just seeing her be like, guys, don't fight.

And like she just is coming across very like wholesome in a way that's kind of exciting.

But I also wonder what that's got to be like, because it's just got to be a very different engine, narrative engine, right?

Like, are you sure?

Well, they have like a real knack.

It's like sometimes if you're coming across wholesome and kind, the audience will see it as a lack of vulnerability.

But I think what's unique about Ashley and then their relationship is like it does feel really genuine.

And the fact that she is a motive, I think, is just like going to make people feel more connected to her.

You know what I mean?

I mean, I've really enjoyed watching them.

Totally.