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Nick Viall

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

He is able to regulate his nervous system better than she can.

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

And he uses that.

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

And we can even talk a little bit about how that's his power in a certain way.

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

But reactive abuse, again, this is where it gets really murky.

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

Reactive abuse is when someone has like...

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

been chronically provoked, gaslit or lied to, manipulated over a sustained period of time.

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

And he does lie and gaslight her and manipulate her until she eventually explodes.

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

But the problem is that...

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

In reactive abuse, typically, if you want to look at it cleanly, that's kind of like the only pattern that goes on.

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

Somebody is lying, manipulating, gaslighting until the other person is all of a sudden like snaps.

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

And then you point at that person, maybe in this case, Taylor, and you're like, whoa, whoa, oh my God, you're being crazy.

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

You're abusing me.

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

The fact is that like Taylor also acts like this in other relationships, not like as severe, but we've seen her like...

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

lose her shit before.

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

She can get really mad at other people as well.

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

So that's why it doesn't fit very cleanly.

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

It's not just Dakota provoking her and then Taylor reacting.

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

And you said this, but I feel like it's important to say, reactive abuse does not cancel out personal accountability, right?

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

It just sort of adds some context.

The Viall Files
E1101 - Taylor and Dakota w/ Therapy Jeff, Jessi & Chase Drama, Is West/Amanda True? Why Bach Might Not Air

So even if there was some reactive abuse going on there for Taylor...