Nick Viall

Are you following that story as well or are you mostly keeping up with Bravo these days?

We actually just had a great conversation with our legal expert, Emily Baker, to kind of break that all down.

What I wanted to discuss with you is the rest of the Mormon wives before we get to the Summer House stuff.

It really seems like we just had a recent story come out.

I don't know, Mary, if you have it, but basically the headline is the rest of the cast seems to have changed their feelings.

Because for those of you who don't remember, this all started...

There was this alleged incident in February, and we started hearing about it because the rest of the cast had said, we don't feel comfortable filming anymore with what's going on with Dakota and Taylor.

And the new headline is, there seems to be a change of heart.

Now, I imagine that change of heart has to do with...

the possibility of Dakota and Taylor no longer being involved in filming or certainly the pair of them won't be involved.

It really seems like right now it's hard to figure out whether, you know, we have a video of Jen talking about going through rough times with the camera, like basically centered around her hands and she's not wearing a wedding band.

Now, for anyone who's married, we all know that sometimes we take our wedding rings off during the day.

I don't do that.

I wear mine all the time.

I mean, I haven't.

I never take mine off because I just have a gold band and it's just like, it doesn't, you know, but Natalie takes hers off every night because she's got a big rock.

So there's that.

I mean, there's also, there's literally been times where like now and I have like, we're going to an event.

And then she'd be like, oh shit, I forgot to put my ring on.

And knowing that we're going to go on a red carpet or be photographed, we turn around.