Nick Willing

Help her by crucifying her and seeing if she comes back from the dead, because that's what happened to Jesus.

She doesn't, you know, because she just dies.

There are these horrible stories that Paul Orego, of course, responded to and understood them.

The macabre and violent and toxic nature of family power struggles are very much part of her language.

So she started making this picture.

And the pillow man, even though her father was certainly not a killer, she loved her father very, very much.

He was an extraordinary man.

But it started to become about him, you see.

So then the pillar man turns into her father.

It's a very odd thing.

And then she makes a series of pictures.

The pillar man is a triptych, which, like a comic book, three panels.

tells the story of growing up in Portugal during the Second World War and what those feelings were like and the mixture of conflicted feelings in there.

It's a very passionate picture.

She considered it to be her most accomplished work.

Not necessarily the best, but certainly the most accomplished.

It's now in the Hague, in the Kunstmuseum in the Hague.

It's just my favorite picture.

But she'd asked Martin Madonna, oh, do you have any other stories?

He said, well, he's the most lovely man.