Nick Willing

And it didn't take much because she was already thinking so many bad things.

And also, her depression would also short-circuit any feelings of grandeur.

She'd be back down, feeling awful.

That's why, you know, when I asked her, which would you prefer, she'd say, I'd prefer not to have had depression.

at her openings.

You know, here would be an opening, the most exquisite pictures.

And she'd be going, oh my God, do you think people make of it?

She'd feel very vulnerable.

I would take The Pillar Man.

Yes.

For me, The Pillar Man is my favourite picture.

That's such a good picture.

Of my dad's, I'd steal it from my sister, his self-portrait.

He did Sitting at a Table painting, which is the most beautiful painting I've ever seen.

And that's Victor Willing.

You know, I tell you what, when you first asked me that question, Victor Willing, yeah.

You can look it up online.

Victor Willing painted a self-portrait of him sitting at a table wearing blue.

When you were asking me that question...

I thought, oh, what would I actually choose?