Nicky

So it's always difficult.

to win against.

You need to be absolutely 100% focused.

And I remember Sir Alex once said, you know, for us to win a game, we need nine players to play a minimum of eight.

We can carry one player, outfield player, who has a seven, a player seven.

So that tells you how difficult it is for us.

So when something happens in a game, and you're there, you're playing,

Because we've been there a few years, we understand something you haven't got the experience of yet.

We need to know that you can deal with that.

So it wasn't like on purpose we're trying to bring you down, but that was just a tone.

So when we're changed and training, that is a tone.

Then when we're in the dressing room, it's different.

And sometimes it sounds a bit harsh.

My wife, she's a school teacher, you know, and when I tell her stories about how it was, just a funny little thing, Adam Sadler, who was my boot boy, he's been Casper's coach for many years, right?

And he always says to me, it was the best thing that happened to me that you were like that, because it taught me.

It taught me to be disciplined.

I mean, I would bring Adam in and say...

what have you done to my boots?

And they were shiny, they were perfect.

What have you done?