Nicola Tallent

Maybe it is.

Maybe it is.

But what that is, is that that theory that floats around that Hutch actually was the brainchild behind the whole catastrophe that was the Regency trial, that he had got Dowdall to go state witness against him to give the evidence as the trial could collapse, he could walk free.

Dowdall did a few years and gone to the sun.

Tell you one thing that's for sure, that didn't happen.

and Dowdall ain't gone off to the sunshine to live out a happy existence.

Dowdall is released now, isn't he?

Mm-hmm.

But he will be signed off the Witness Protection Program.

He'll be relocated somewhere, undoubtedly English-speaking, and I don't know what sort of a life that is going to be, but I imagine it's going to be a very uncomfortable one, away from friends, family, and everything he has known.

Yeah.

So that is the kind of the criticism that comes up again and again.

And obviously with the Monk play, there has been a lot of writing around it.

Crime correspondents have become theatre critics.

So it's a bit of both.

So it's all kind of back again into the ether, this whole thing.

You gave him platform.

You didn't interview him hard enough.

And he nearly got elected because of you.

Clearly this podcast.