Nicola Tallent

And the fourth guy that... Watson, of course, had only just previous convictions of minor road traffic.

So he obviously, while he had some addiction issues and...

claims to have had this 10,000 euro debt.

He hadn't come into difficulty with the law before.

And there was nothing to suggest... Watson was interesting as well, Eamon, just to interrupt you, because they talked about how throughout his life he had worked...

They said he worked in factories, he worked in a bread factory, in McVitie's biscuit factory and working at Coca-Cola as a driver.

He was a driver engineer and fixed machines, etc.

So he is somebody who's had a steady time of it mostly until he's in a situation where this drug debt, we're told, spirals his life, basically.

It's a foolish thing he's done, but to try and clear that debt and before his son is born, because his partner is pregnant, he decides to take up this job.

His wife is an accountant, I think, and gets a job in the UK and they become British citizens.

Yeah, yeah.

They're very settled.

No explanation as regards why he needed to make the quick... No, presumably, yeah.

Because you see, I thought what was interesting was and the evidence given was that

There wasn't a sense of having to keep them quiet because they described how they were working in cell structures, the landing cell.

Now, one of those landing cells, which included the guys we're just talking about, monks, et cetera, they were caught.

But there was clearly other landing cells and the cells didn't know anything about one another.

and the people working within the cells didn't know each other either.

So they were kind of strangers put together.

So if you do get caught, you only know what you are supposed to have done.