Nicola Tallent

But presumably from an investigative point of view, there was sampling where the cocaine had been in the boat and they were able to prove that there was cocaine in the boat.

They were able to

I think that... Proved through the phone messages how much they were dealing with.

Because a photograph was sent.

The phones always get them.

But what do you do if you're, you know, traveling across the world at sea and try to keep in communication?

There's only one way you can do that really, isn't there?

And that's on a phone or some sort of a satellite.

I mean, what else are you going to think he's doing?

Exactly.

And funny, you know, that earlier plot I was talking to you about, which saw Gerard Hagen get the 10 years and Martin Wand and others get much longer.

They had actually come to stay in the area for months and weeks beforehand to settle in as if they were just very wealthy tourists.

And they had brought over the rib boats and the jeeps and everything bit by bit.

So it looked like they were kind of boys toys and they were rich English tourists in the area.

And it was it was certainly a lot more thought of than certainly these two.

The camper van guys and with the with the rib boat, etc.

Do you think they were scrambled last minute?

Now it certainly shows us how vulnerable our coastline is and how suitable Ireland is for landing these big, huge shipments.

I mean, again and again.

And double crosses and gangsters called chief leaders and all the rest.