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Nicolas Owens

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The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

In a way, I'm indifferent in my forecast between whether they get more subscription revenue for Grok or more rental revenue from Anthropic.

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

They're one of the handful of AI companies that own that infrastructure.

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

Anthropic does not, right?

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

They don't own a data center.

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

And so they have to go out and rent it.

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

And that's just, let's say, I think a validation that

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

SpaceX through its AI division is one of a small number of the AI companies that owns its infrastructure.

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

And this vertical integration, owning all your stuff, owning the whole stack is very much a part of the SpaceX strategy.

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

And they kind of proved it out in the original rockets and satellites business model in that they use their own rockets, which are lower cost than anyone else's to launch the Starlink satellites.

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

and they do so sort of frequently.

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

I mean, the vast majority of the payloads that they brought up are their own satellites and they sort of, they charge themselves like the, you know, the friends and family discount for, you know, they get it at cost, so to speak.

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

So they have an even bigger cost advantage in that market, which we give them a narrow moat rating because the characteristics of those two businesses are so strong and they're so far ahead.

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

And that may, in one scenario, kind of extend out into AI.

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

If the GPUs in space with free solar heating and arguably free cooling is incrementally cheaper than the data center on the ground, that could be the way that this business plan sort of proves out and extends the same strategy of vertical integration, if that makes sense.

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

I agree.

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

I wouldn't say game changer.

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

So two things.

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

Yes, they are using equity to do the deal.

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

So would I.

The Rundown
What’s SpaceX Really Worth? This Analyst Says $63 a Share

That's the, let's say, most efficient currency for them to use right now, especially if you believe, as I do, that it's overvalued.