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Nicole Hill

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
877 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

Because this is the thing.

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

His boys think that she is too ambitious.

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

Her girls say that he's a player.

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

Plus, Essie and Paul, by their own admission, argue a lot.

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

They're opposites in temperament and style and height.

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

They also want an unconventional arrangement where instead of man and wife, they are going to be equals.

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

So one rainy day in August 1921, a year after they started hanging out, Paul and Essie elope.

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

They move into a tiny apartment in Harlem.

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

Their friends and family are like, God bless.

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

So Paul is studying to be a lawyer, which is a huge deal for many reasons, not least of which because he and Essie are the first generation to come up in an America without slavery.

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

His dad was actually born enslaved and then escaped on the Underground Railroad as a teenager.

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

All around them, Americans are trying to figure out a way to beat Jim Crow, and Paul hopes to do his part as a lawyer.

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

So, while Paul is studying, Essie supports the couple as the first black woman to lead a lab at Columbia Presbyterian Hospital.

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

Paul ends a job at a law firm where he's subjected to all kinds of racism, all kinds of indignities.

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

So Essie's like, Paul, you know what you should do?

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

You should quit being a lawyer and you should become a full-time actor.

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

Paul is like, what are you even talking about?

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

But she's like, no, no, no.

This American Life
885: Bless This Mess

I think you're a generational talent.