Nicole Lapin

My five books came out.

Only five?

I'm such a loser.

But I always really...

Just remember how you make people feel, how you've always made me feel, how I know from all the interviews that you've done since our first one back in the day that everybody just thinks you truly are like the embodiment of being kind.

I think you're doing great.

And I think a lot, and I talk about on the show a lot, the difference between being nice and being kind.

What do you think the difference is?

Because the way I think about it is the nice thing to do is telling people what they want to hear, but the kind thing to do is telling them the truth, but with kindness.

Yeah, it's easier to be nice.

Like I have a co host who sent me a clip of him on TV.

And the nice thing to say was like, you did amazing.

Congratulations.

It was awesome.

You're so good.

But the truth was, I thought he could use some feedback.

Yeah.

And so it took extra time to be kind and to give him constructive feedback.

So how do you think about it in the workplace?

So let's say I'm that person that needed feedback.