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Nicole Lapin

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Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

economy and the economy right before the Great Depression and saying, quote, prices might not feel stable.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

Let's decode this for a second because it sounds no bueno.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

When he says prices, he's talking about valuations, how expensive stocks are now compared to what companies actually earn.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

The simplest way to measure that is a price to earnings ratio or P.E.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

Right now, the S&P 500's P.E.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

is about 28 times earnings.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

That means that investors are paying $28 for every $1 of profit companies are making.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

Historically, the average has been closer to $15 or $16, so today's market is almost twice as expensive as normal.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

If you look at the Shiller PE, also called the CAPE ratio, it smooths out earnings over 10 years to show a longer-term picture, and that is fitting around 39 to 40 times earnings right now.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

For comparison, the only other times it's been that high

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

1929, 1999, 2021, all followed by major pullbacks.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

In the late 90s dot-com bubble, the regular PE peaked around 33 and the Shiller PE hit around 44 before the crash.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

So no, we're not saying that a crash is guaranteed, but when valuations stretch this far above average, it means that the market's priced for perfection.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

Everything.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

profits, growth, interest rates has to keep going exactly right.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

So when Andrew says that prices might not feel sustainable, he's saying that the market is running hot and the higher it climbs, the thinner your safety net gets.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

Now, the case of the missing $2.3 billion.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

It starts in 2013.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

A guy named James Patrick found an auto parts company in Ohio called First Brands Group, or FBG.

Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin
Wall Street News Roundup: Recession Watch, Escalating Tariff War and a Missing $2 Billion

FBG is the kind of place that sells those DIY replacement windshield wipers to AutoZone and Walmart.