Nicole Schmidt
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Podcast Appearances
Jim had to make probably the, I mean, it's safe to say the worst phone call you've ever had to make. I don't even know how he made it.
Jim had to make probably the, I mean, it's safe to say the worst phone call you've ever had to make. I don't even know how he made it.
Through all of it, we still say it could have been worse.
Through all of it, we still say it could have been worse.
And it said, burn after reading.
And it said, burn after reading.
He was a liar. Nothing he said in those stories were true. He was a coward to the day that he died.
He was a liar. Nothing he said in those stories were true. He was a coward to the day that he died.
Yes, there were. But we didn't notice them at the time.
Yes, there were. But we didn't notice them at the time.
So Gabby didn't come up to us and say, he's doing this. It's things that we would notice, again, after the fact. We can see that that pattern was part of that progression that she was in.
So Gabby didn't come up to us and say, he's doing this. It's things that we would notice, again, after the fact. We can see that that pattern was part of that progression that she was in.
There's so many versions of it. And a lot of people don't even know where to go when they're in it. Knowing what we know now, we see that progression that happened. Alienation of friends and family. Isolation. But it's hard to pick up. But when you get a high-level view, you can see the path that that was leading to. And that's part that is hard for us.
There's so many versions of it. And a lot of people don't even know where to go when they're in it. Knowing what we know now, we see that progression that happened. Alienation of friends and family. Isolation. But it's hard to pick up. But when you get a high-level view, you can see the path that that was leading to. And that's part that is hard for us.
Once everything was done, the FBI asked us what we wanted to do with it, and we contemplated a few things. At the end, we were like, we just don't want the vibe to it. We had the van crushed. No one really knows that, but we did.
Once everything was done, the FBI asked us what we wanted to do with it, and we contemplated a few things. At the end, we were like, we just don't want the vibe to it. We had the van crushed. No one really knows that, but we did.