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How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

And who do I want to build that with?

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

And so when that trifecta came together, that's when we launched Square9.

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

And it's been great.

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

It's been everything I hoped for and more.

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

I think we continue to be in a really interesting part of the credit market where, you know, as I said, regular way direct lending, awesome business, big volume business, stubbornly focused in appropriately so on a set of sponsors, delivering them a product that, you know, fits a very neat box.

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

And then there's the 80% of the market that is not sponsored back.

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

Not all of those would be credit worthy companies, but 80% of the market is not sponsored back.

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

And so, you know, we kind of spend time in this, we call them valuation opaque situation.

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

So why are they valuation opaque?

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

One, if there's not a sponsor, we have to roll up our sleeves and really use a private equity playbook, if you will, for underwriting.

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

So those are valuation opaque situations.

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

The second opportunity set probably looks like maybe there is a sponsor in there, but they're probably not the top 40 sponsors that get banked all day by direct lenders today.

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

They're likely not following their capital.

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

They're not putting more equity in a deal.

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

So again, we have to come in, roll up our sleeves, do the complex work of setting value, the valuation opaque again.

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

And then the third bucket would just be truly opportunistic situations where spicier, higher octane situations where, again, we got to come in and really determine value.

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

I think that's a lot of work.

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

Those are complex situations.

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

And when you are raising tens of billions of dollars on your direct lending platform, you don't really need to mess around in these tougher, more complex situations.

How I Invest with David Weisburd
E292: How the Former CalPERS CIO Built a High-Performance Investment Culture

But there's a lot to be done in those areas.