Nicolle Wallace
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I mean, there's so many layers of what I think audiences recoil from.
Some of it is just story selection.
I always thought...
when I worked in politics, that the power of Fox wasn't any individual anchor.
It was the rundowns they created.
And I still think that story selection is the most power we have, what you decide to shine a light on, especially now in the second Trump term.
But the language is maybe the second most important thing, how we talk about them.
And I wonder if you can just talk a little bit more on what you see and what you cover in terms of self-censorship.
And why is that?
Why were we not trained?
I mean, because I think that's how 2016 surprises everybody, right?
My job in 2016 was for NBC, the network, kind of out there talking to voters.
And there was a lot of interest in Trump that a lot of people missed.
There was a lot of sort of hangover from his celebrity as The Apprentice that a lot of political journalists miss.
But how are we still missing it?
With that stipulated, I'll throw in with not always knowing what to make of it.
I mean, I would nod to their outsized power in our politics and also feeling disoriented in terms of how to cover their intramural fighting.
But we are having this conversation at a moment of peak civil war within the MAGA media universe.
And I wonder if you could just take me through, I mean, there's
There's Megyn Kelly calling out Fox, using words that I might have once used, calling them, quote, cheerleaders.