Nicolle Wallace

Like he was walking on a hot roof, right?

After the double strike was revealed and the campaign in the Caribbean started to be covered and received some bipartisan condemnation, questions about whether or not war crimes had been committed.

Let me ask you, is a double strike that kills shipwreck survivors, in your view, something that should be investigated as a possible war crime?

Let me ask you about both those incidents, though, because the culture of impunity is fleeting.

Trump is a lame duck.

He can never run for anything again.

So he will be gone in three years.

Impunity is...

Fleeting, right?

I mean, like anyone could run for president on the platform of accountability for everyone operating outside the laws as we understand them.

Now, they could run to change the laws, but the laws as we understand them, the laws of war have in their own book the example of striking shipwreck survivors as meeting a definition of a war crime.

The conduct of ICE.

I mean, we are all cautious and I think reflexively protective and defensive of the mission.

of law enforcement, and that is a good thing.

But the conduct of ICE that is happening in front of our eyes on the streets of American cities is not in any book or manual or training for any domestic law enforcement organization in this country ever.

I mean, it is all insane.

And I wonder if you think that the idea that

There's impunity now because Trump is the president and he's pardoning everybody, even people his own DOJ has prosecuted and convicted, is creating paralysis.

What do you think happens just at a human level?

This has become my burning question.