Nicolle Wallace

I mean, I would nod to their outsized power in our politics and also feeling disoriented in terms of how to cover their intramural fighting.

But we are having this conversation at a moment of peak civil war within the MAGA media universe.

And I wonder if you could just take me through, I mean, there's

There's Megyn Kelly calling out Fox, using words that I might have once used, calling them, quote, cheerleaders.

Propagandists, I think she said, yeah.

Propagandists for the military operation in Venezuela, while Megyn Kelly, with the other hand, is defending Tucker Carlson's

you know, playing footsie with Nick Fuentes.

So, and Candace Owens is sort of in a league of her own.

A lot of it seems to have at its sort of spilling over moment, the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

His wife is now probably more famous than he ever was because she's crossed over into sort of mainstream fame.

But just talk about the mega media universe right now.

If everything's going so good— If everything's so awesome, why are you guys—

They're the worst winners in the world, though.

I have to say, this is one of the through lines from 16.

Most people win and sort of, you know, normal politicians go about trying to enact their agenda and then trying to be gracious to the losers.

They are the worst winners ever.

And everybody.

She texts everyone from Meghan Markle to Kara Swisher to Fox to Hannity.

She seems to hate everybody.

I'm sure.