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Nilay Patel

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11911 total appearances

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

They can accomplish more tasks.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

And I don't see any of that from XAI.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

It doesn't seem like Elon has a particular thesis of what XAI should be doing or what Grok should be doing besides being like your sexy girlfriend.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Is there any thesis that anybody has identified?

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

You know, Elon and XAI get a lot of credit for just standing up a frontier AI company and catching up as much as they did.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

But very few other companies have been able to do that.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Right.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

I always attributed that to, well, what you needed was a lot of compute and Elon has a lot of money.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

So he just bought a lot of GPUs and then he stole the internet like everybody else did.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

And he trained a model using the technology everyone else trained.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

And now he has Croc, which is about as good as GPT-5, which is about as good as Gemini.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

And that's the state of the art.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

It sounds like you're saying there's actually a lot more differentiation at that frontier model level now.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

And just having a whole bunch of GPUs trading away is not enough.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

The idea that the models themselves are kind of all interchangeable and you've got to build other kinds of moats, whether it's the personality of the model or specific feature sets or, in the case of Grok,

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

porn, that to me connects very directly to, well, a bunch of researchers can just leave, right?

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

If the underlying models are as similar as you're saying, and it's the other moats on top, well, that to me is why you would say, well, I have enough money.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

I want to go someplace where the mission matters.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

And there's a lot of reasons why the missions at XAI might be different than your perceived mission at OpenAI versus your perceived mission at Anthropic.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

If you've been paying attention, you've seen a huge wave of coverage about Anthropic in various publications lately.