Nilay Patel

Maybe it's private security.

Maybe it's not.

What does the AI do?

Does it just make the cameras smarter?

It lets you do more intelligent assessment of what the cameras are seeing?

As you can see, I really pressed Jamie on this.

Because I still don't think it's entirely clear how Ring accomplishes the elimination of crime through AI alone.

And all that is why people don't trust Ring when it says it won't use systems that can find a dog to do things that would otherwise violate our rights.

After all, if your goal is to use AI to stop crime and you've built a system that uses AI to find dogs, well, it's pretty obvious what you're going to do next, right?

Do you think when you talk about zero out crime in a neighborhood, the idea that everyone in a neighborhood has one of those illuminated ring signs in their front yard, is that enough?

That's a part of it.

Is that just enough of a deterrent?

Like the bad guys will know, like my face is going to get captured on video and that will be analyzed by an AI and something will happen.

Do you have to do more outbound deterrents?

I think that's a, I think that's a, that's a part of it.

So when you think about, okay, we can bring it down – we can bring crime down a neighborhood to close to zero in a neighborhood.

What are the sort of ratcheting steps, right?

Is it everyone just gets the ring camera and your platform does all the work?

Is it someone gets caught and they tell all their friends in jail that they got caught?

Don't go to – like what are the steps, right?