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Hello and welcome to Decoder.

I'm Neil I. Patel, editor-in-chief of The Verge, and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems.

Today, I'm talking with Roland Busch, the CEO of Siemens.

Now, Siemens is one of those absolutely giant, extremely important, and yet fairly opaque companies that we love to dig into here on Decoder.